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		<title>By: amy.leblanc</title>
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		<description>excellent post. 
in response to your challenge to find the feather 
hat aesthetic in popular culture/MSM and how that might have lead to ANTM&#039;s decision, i will say that John Galliano, Christian Dior and other couture designers have been on that for at least a couple of seasons (since late 2005 at least), and i have actually seen a lot of this in high-end fashion magazines (and french Vogue etc.), with a very heavy Cirque/ El Circo feel- the fedoras, the airbrushing decorative body paint, the vintage influence, the circus overtone - or even the more obscure (one of my favorite Dior looks here, very similar to what i see a lot of our extremely talented &#039;underground&#039; designers doing:
http://207.58.155.90/~leblanc/images/uploads/dior.jpg) 

it&#039;s hard to say whether Galliano and other couture designers are pulling from the circus/burlesque subcultures or whether it&#039;s the other way around, or maybe a loop between the two, and then fashion-mainstream things like ANTM pull from there.  as far as a &#039;mainstream&#039; example of the ANTM-replicated look, check out this promo for the Pussycat Dolls, which is almost exactly the same: http://www.clipov.net/free/oboi/pussycat-dolls1024-2.jpg), 
i guess my point is that if you&#039;re a fashion junkie, i wouldn&#039;t have even blinked twice at seeing that ANTM ad because i&#039;ve seen such  things all over fashion media.

all good ideas about the feedback loops and remixes of culture; i think we are definitely at a point where it&#039;s almost impossible to be &#039;original&#039;, because we are all influenced by something. wait- didn&#039;t andy warhol say that in 1975?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent post.<br />
in response to your challenge to find the feather<br />
hat aesthetic in popular culture/MSM and how that might have lead to ANTM&#8217;s decision, i will say that John Galliano, Christian Dior and other couture designers have been on that for at least a couple of seasons (since late 2005 at least), and i have actually seen a lot of this in high-end fashion magazines (and french Vogue etc.), with a very heavy Cirque/ El Circo feel- the fedoras, the airbrushing decorative body paint, the vintage influence, the circus overtone &#8211; or even the more obscure (one of my favorite Dior looks here, very similar to what i see a lot of our extremely talented &#8216;underground&#8217; designers doing:<br />
<a href="http://207.58.155.90/~leblanc/images/uploads/dior.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://207.58.155.90/~leblanc/images/uploads/dior.jpg</a>) </p>
<p>it&#8217;s hard to say whether Galliano and other couture designers are pulling from the circus/burlesque subcultures or whether it&#8217;s the other way around, or maybe a loop between the two, and then fashion-mainstream things like ANTM pull from there.  as far as a &#8216;mainstream&#8217; example of the ANTM-replicated look, check out this promo for the Pussycat Dolls, which is almost exactly the same: <a href="http://www.clipov.net/free/oboi/pussycat-dolls1024-2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.clipov.net/free/oboi/pussycat-dolls1024-2.jpg</a>),<br />
i guess my point is that if you&#8217;re a fashion junkie, i wouldn&#8217;t have even blinked twice at seeing that ANTM ad because i&#8217;ve seen such  things all over fashion media.</p>
<p>all good ideas about the feedback loops and remixes of culture; i think we are definitely at a point where it&#8217;s almost impossible to be &#8216;original&#8217;, because we are all influenced by something. wait- didn&#8217;t andy warhol say that in 1975?</p>
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